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| Topic Started: 11 Aug 2011, 05:57 PM (26,748 Views) | |
| Nemesis | 27 Jun 2012, 10:58 AM Post #1801 |
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How many were killed? |
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| salamutスタッフ | 27 Jun 2012, 11:09 AM Post #1802 |
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They never actually went extinct, although very close and those who remain are so interbred that you'd never know. The only thing that you'd call an intentional extermination programme was a sweep of the island where only two were caught. Much of the deaths was through small pox and the cold. Whether or not these were intentional is up for discussion. The Black war resulted in many casualties but these were often disputes for land. Of the 1,000–2,000 full-blooded aboriginals in 1828 less than 250 survived by 1833. The last we know of pure blooded Tasmanians was In October 1847, the 47 survivors were transferred to their final settlement at Oyster Cove station. Only 44 survived the trip (11 couples, 12 single men and 10 children) and the children were immediately sent to the orphan school in Hobart. Despite over 170 years of debate over who or what was responsible for this near-extinction, no consensus exists on its origins, process, or whether or not it was genocide, U.N. definition, sufficient evidence exists to designate the Tasmanian catastrophe genocide. Helpful sources http://eprints.utas.edu.au/1887/ http://epress.anu.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/ch0155.pdf http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.1086/522350?uid=3737536&uid=2&uid=4&sid=56279860233 http://www.historycooperative.org/journals/lab/85/macintyre.html Edited by salamutスタッフ, 27 Jun 2012, 11:16 AM.
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| Nemesis | 27 Jun 2012, 11:20 AM Post #1803 |
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So, Poodie, I mention Mao's genocides (that killed almost 80 mil. people) and you mention that fact that 2 people got caught... Yeah, dude, brilliant argument. Also, how many of these were in the 20th century? http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html King Leopold II of Belgium, not Leopold of Belgium. It was from 1885 to 1908, so not just the 19th century. Leopold I died 20 years before the beginning of the rule. Edited by Nemesis, 27 Jun 2012, 11:32 AM.
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| Triplock | 27 Jun 2012, 05:33 PM Post #1804 |
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So the libertard came around to agree with me? I'm honoured. It had gotten worse in some regards, sure we don't have a giant war every 20 years or so(what it takes to breed a whole new generation of Kanonfutter). But decline of pitched battles, inventing "collateral damage" you're more likely to get killed randomly, for simply waiting in the same intersection as some swarthy arab. Which is of little consequence, in an event of catastrophic disaster, death toll numbers would have become irrelevant, the bigger issue would be damage done to our potential as a specie, Cerhnobyl and Fukishima shrank the world of useable space by some square kilometers, climate change, is shrinking it by several thousands... All you have to ask yourself, is; "When were we as a human species, more likely to inflict irreversible catasthropic damage upon ourselves and our planet? In 1812 year of the Patriotic war, or in 2012?" and "How is that progress?" |
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| individualanarchist | 18 Aug 2012, 03:30 PM Post #1805 |
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I am an anarchist, I think Charles Manson is innocent, I think Police are evil, And arrest is kidnapping. |
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| LuCay | 27 Aug 2012, 05:00 PM Post #1806 |
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Unpopular opinions I have: - people who are rude to waitresses should be beaten to a bloody pulp in front of the other diners - no one is above an ass-whooping. There is no absolute moral prohibition against hitting women - the Kardashians should be fucking killed. Nah, just kidding. They should be smacked around a bit, just in case they deserve it - the Board of Directors of Goldman Sachs should be fucking killed - Mother Teresa was something of a cunt - Maoist economics, if it could be made to work, would be the best economic system in history - Evolution should be taught to young children whether their parents like it or not - People who engage in capital flight should be imprisoned - Texas should be handed back to Mexico - Cuba should have a military base in Florida - 1990s rap is better than any pop music today - all drugs should be legal, except those that positively make people act like lunatics - metrosexuals are annoying - guys who manicure their hands shouldn't hold positions of power - pacifists are selfish |
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| Superpig | 27 Aug 2012, 05:37 PM Post #1807 |
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Why do you think Manson is innocent and why do you think it is kidnapping? |
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27 Aug 2012, 05:46 PM Post #1808 |
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You're not fat. |
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| Exploding Hero | 27 Aug 2012, 06:18 PM Post #1809 |
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I think Vag is a genuinely intelligent man who bares more responsibility than all of us combined. |
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| Lilith Immaculate | 27 Aug 2012, 08:09 PM Post #1810 |
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As somebody who fucks a socialist (thank god it's only in an idealistic sense and also that he isn't a communist) on a regular basis and so can empathize with you ethically altruistic lumps. That being said, that can be said for any fucking economic system without evidense. "anarcho capitalism can work if we can make it work, Marxism can work if we make it work, mutualism can work if we can make it work, syndicalism can work if we make it work - and when it does it will be the bestest ever" And when it flat out doesn't, hasn't, wouldn't work than what? oh it just wasn't applied properly! thats a cop out. |
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| LuCay | 28 Aug 2012, 07:47 AM Post #1811 |
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Goody gumdrops. But my claim was simply that IF it could be made to work it would be the best economic system in human history. I didn't say it necessarily could be made to work, nor was I providing any sort of probability assessment, though there's nothing in Maoist economics that is, to me, self-evidently unworkable (when it's investigated beyond caricature). Having said that, it should be noted that Maoist economics can only be pursued in a revolutionary situation; you can't just transplant it and ''apply'' it willy-nilly. In most situations today it would collapse if that there attempted. To get to it, you need to have had an upsurge against the old order. THEN you can lay some of the foundations for it, and then, with any luck, you can go socialist. And even then it's perilous. Maoist economics is not only an economic system, it's a transitional stage to communism. It doesn't mean that class antagonisms have disappeared. If anything, they may be intensified, and the representatives and adherents of the old order will try to do what they can to restore that order. And therein lies the difficulty. Maoist economics, itself a revolutionary process, is fraught with danger, uncertainty, and complexity. What seems clear to me is that, in the final analysis, it's no less workable than capitalism, a system that daily fails to deliver on what it promised. |
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| iexist1 | 5 Sep 2012, 04:16 PM Post #1812 |
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Everyone one in power who supports the wars should be divided in half, one half should be given to Iraqis who were harmed by or lost family members to their invasion due to our invasion, the others to Afghan's of the same. Also i believe that shoplifting from large corporations is a moral and buying from them is immoral |
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| Nemesis | 14 Sep 2012, 07:15 AM Post #1813 |
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Transformers I wasn't that bad. It was fun and entertaining and it had cool robots fighting robots scenes. |
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| Triplock | 14 Sep 2012, 07:22 AM Post #1814 |
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This is now a rant thread: Having to make several phone-calls a day, to completely random people, trying to secure an apartment, is worse than having your limbs cut off with a plastic ruler... especially for a rather unsociable, curmudgeonly fuck much like myself. I'm exhausted from people. I've discovered about myself that I'm seriously deficient in the ability to negotiate... it's all "Well, thank you and goodbye." the moment someone can't quite meet the criteria. Edited by Triplock, 14 Sep 2012, 07:27 AM.
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| oscarstrok | 14 Sep 2012, 03:33 PM Post #1815 |
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I believe that having an unpopular opinion isn't something to be proud of. It's just an opinion. Edited by oscarstrok, 14 Sep 2012, 03:35 PM.
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| Nemesis | 14 Sep 2012, 03:45 PM Post #1816 |
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You are a genius. |
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| oscarstrok | 14 Sep 2012, 03:50 PM Post #1817 |
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I had to go to Harvard University just to be intelligent enough to make that opinion. But seriously, it just seems that most people think they're cool and special because they dislike something most people like. Edited by oscarstrok, 14 Sep 2012, 03:50 PM.
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| Just4Trophyz | 14 Sep 2012, 04:19 PM Post #1818 |
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The United States needs to give driver's licenses to intelligent people. Too many are given to dumbasses who have no idea on how fast you should go when you're in a construction zone and when to fucking pass a car when there is another car in the other lane. |
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| Nemesis | 14 Sep 2012, 04:34 PM Post #1819 |
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Yeah, especially people that are anti irrelevant shit like Apple, Bieber, Twilight, etc. |
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| Eugene Debs Hartke | 15 Sep 2012, 12:06 AM Post #1820 |
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... Or they're just deluded enough to have the perception that everyone would disagree. Still, this is the main reason I don't bother with these discussion (a lot of times it becomes questionable whether they could be considered that) on reddit and /b/. Not that I normally frequent /b/, it seems like almost everyone there should be on anti-psychotics or Ritalin. |
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