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Why do Colleges cost more than High School?
Topic Started: 10 Oct 2011, 05:42 PM (546 Views)
GunShard	10 Oct 2011, 05:42 PM Post #1
Posts: 91 Group: Members Member #265 Joined: 4-Jul 2011	It costs basically nothing for a fat slob to teach me in High School. And yet it costs more than $10,000 per semester for a fat slob to teach me in College. Ok, let's say I get a hidden camera and record all the lessons in College. Then I upload all the lessons on Youtube. So when a person goes to College it may cost more than $10,000 to get educated. And yet, it is free for the person who is watching the lessons on Youtube to get educated. If Youtube has some type of copyright rule. Then torrent the sessions. Every college student should get a hidden camera and record the sessions for the public.
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perspectiveman	10 Oct 2011, 05:56 PM Post #2
Posts: 183 Group: Members Member #358 Joined: 20-Jul 2011	High school is basic education, whilst college is higher education. This means high school is subsidized more. It's like health care: only certain basic aspects are covered by welfare and insurance. If you want to go higher, like putting on braces or have a nose elevation, you'll have to pay more by yourself. Plus, the costs of running a college are much higher than high school, due to more expensive research facilities and due to supply-demand law (there are far more high schools than there are college institutions). If you are self-motivated enough, yes you can learn from YouTube, or you can go to a library and read. Given 4 years of diligent studying at the library and you'll be more knowledgeable than any PhD's out there. Problem is, most of us are lazy slobs who need deadlines and grades to motivate our pathetic selves. College is also about the social life it entails, not merely the academic aspect. I hope this all makes sense



jesse	11 Oct 2011, 03:29 AM Post #3
roberto Posts: 316 Group: Members Member #423 Joined: 24-Jul 2011	The way I see it, you don't go to college to get an education. You go to college to get a qualification. The $10,000 doesn't represent what you learn, it's just a ticket for you to (sometimes) get a decent job.



Deleted User	11 Oct 2011, 07:07 AM Post #4
Deleted User	College is also about competition and testing your abilities. Sure you could learn stuff for free from the internet, but you are not being tested by the top brains in the course.
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salamutスタッフ	11 Oct 2011, 07:09 AM Post #5
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morgothroth	12 Oct 2011, 12:53 AM Post #6
Posts: 475 Group: Members Member #1,314 Joined: 19-Sep 2011	GunShard 10 Oct 2011, 05:42 PM It costs basically nothing for a fat slob to teach me in High School. And yet it costs more than $10,000 per semester for a fat slob to teach me in College. Ok, let's say I get a hidden camera and record all the lessons in College. Then I upload all the lessons on Youtube. So when a person goes to College it may cost more than $10,000 to get educated. And yet, it is free for the person who is watching the lessons on Youtube to get educated. If Youtube has some type of copyright rule. Then torrent the sessions. Every college student should get a hidden camera and record the sessions for the public. Where are you going mister expensive man? you could save loads by going to community college and then transferring, so much cheaper that way, even state schools are way cheaper then that Youtube doesn't really educate in my field, plus you don't get labs with real skeletal material, or access to 7,000 dollar HD cameras and video editing software on fancy computers that also cost alot (only round 2,500 a semester for me), and the being able to ask someone knowledgeable and getting instant answers is nice (it really helps to get critiques on film stuff from someone who has been making and studying documentaries from way before I was born), also the networking and the general social experience (making out with guys after class is fun)
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TheStrangerInTheRye	17 Oct 2011, 02:31 PM Post #7
Posts: 12 Group: Members Member #295 Joined: 9-Jul 2011	Because government made it too easy for people to get loans for College, telling the banks that if the people getting the loans don't pay, the government will pay the banks. Since everyone can pay, Colleges have no incentive to decrease costs. Simple economics.
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Triplock	17 Oct 2011, 02:38 PM Post #8
Posts: 0 Group: Members Member #1,309 Joined: 19-Sep 2011	It's expensive so that lowly peasants can't afford it. Gotta keep them proles down!



DesBlackmore	17 Oct 2011, 02:40 PM Post #9
Posts: 434 Group: Members Member #1,635 Joined: 4-Oct 2011	Quote: Because government made it too easy for people to get loans for College, telling the banks that if the people getting the loans don't pay, the government will pay the banks. Since everyone can pay, Colleges have no incentive to decrease costs. Simple economics. Is that the case in the U.S.? I was under the impression that it was really hard to get loans in America, considering College is so expensive. But besides that, good point.
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morgothroth	18 Oct 2011, 12:47 AM Post #10
Posts: 475 Group: Members Member #1,314 Joined: 19-Sep 2011	DesBlackmore 17 Oct 2011, 02:40 PM Quote: Because government made it too easy for people to get loans for College, telling the banks that if the people getting the loans don't pay, the government will pay the banks. Since everyone can pay, Colleges have no incentive to decrease costs. Simple economics. Is that the case in the U.S.? I was under the impression that it was really hard to get loans in America, considering College is so expensive. But besides that, good point. No, loans are easy to get, especially college loans
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moiseskline	20 Jun 2012, 01:41 AM Post #11
Posts: 3 Group: Members Member #2,755 Joined: 18-May 2012	Colleges provide higher education and a lot more facilities as compared to a school, hence the increase in tuition. High school is mandatory, whereas college education is voluntary. You can "choose" to go to college. Here's what you can do to make college more affordable: get good grades in high school, get a high GPA, which makes you eligible for a scholarship, or ask your desired college if they offer financial assistance. I'm exploring colleges in California and came to know California College San Diego assists students in applying for various financial aid programs. The reviews also seemed good and so I googled California college san diego complaints to know more and I see that the college has a pretty clean record. Edited by moiseskline, 20 Jun 2012, 01:42 AM.



Snakekasunick	21 Jun 2012, 05:07 PM Post #12
Posts: 393 Group: Members Member #2,715 Joined: 5-May 2012	Triplock 17 Oct 2011, 02:38 PM It's expensive so that lowly peasants can't afford it. Gotta keep them proles down! Bingo.



BadHouses	21 Jun 2012, 09:25 PM Post #13
Posts: 758 Group: Lalalandian Member #1,231 Joined: 13-Sep 2011	Quote: ask your desired college if they offer financial assistance. Nooooooooooo...
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Quadrewple	23 Nov 2012, 01:18 AM Post #14
Posts: 305 Group: Members Member #954 Joined: 25-Aug 2011	TheStrangerInTheRye 17 Oct 2011, 02:31 PM Because government made it too easy for people to get loans for College, telling the banks that if the people getting the loans don't pay, the government will pay the banks. Since everyone can pay, Colleges have no incentive to decrease costs. Simple economics. This combined with the extreme pressure you get throughout school to go to college, combined with the lack of teaching critical thinking, equals RIDICULOUS college rates. There are plenty of people in my dad's generation who paid their way through a 4 year university by waiting tables on the side. I saw a 32GB flash drive for $18 at Staples about a year ago. The original Iomega hard drives in the 80s were 10MB and cost almost $900. That means today you get nearly 2000x the space for 45x less money, plus the added portability that comes with a flash drive. I'm ignoring so many other amazing features of this MASSIVE progression in the world of electronics and it's still mind-blowing just how fast and how significant the changes in measurable numbers have been over a relatively short period. In the 1950's you went into a college classroom, headed by a professor, who proceeded to lecture a large class of students using textbooks and maybe a wall projector. Nowadays you go into a college classroom, headed by a professor, who will proceed to lecture a large class of students using textbooks and probably a giant computer screen or projector. Adjusted for inflation, the average tuition at Harvard in 1947 was 8 times lower than it was in 2007, and it's not as if that trend has reversed. Has the quality of education increased by 8 times during that 60 year period? Obviously not since the model for the university classroom has barely changed. Even if the quality had increased by 8 times, that would mean ZERO progress has been made in the state-run university system in 60 fucking years. And this is WITH all the unfuckingbelievable benefits that the exponential improvement in computer technology has afforded us. Does everyone see how utterly absurd this is?



Cromartie	20 Dec 2012, 03:39 PM Post #15
Posts: 6 Group: Members Member #3,131 Joined: 20-Dec 2012	salamut2202 11 Oct 2011, 07:09 AM The added price is actually a kinky sex tax. I didn't get what I paid for.



Neuronica Vespona Borealis	18 Jan 2013, 11:11 PM Post #16
The Return of the Magnificent Posts: 449 Group: Movie Critic Member #730 Joined: 7-Aug 2011	I remember when College was based on Need and not Merit. Now it is the complete opposite. Ridiculous.
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Nemesis	20 Jan 2013, 11:31 AM Post #17
Internet Zombie Posts: 8,121 Group: God Member #653 Joined: 28-Jul 2011	Neuronica Vespona Borealis 18 Jan 2013, 11:11 PM I remember when College was based on Need and not Merit. Now it is the complete opposite. Ridiculous. Wtf?



GunShard	22 Jan 2013, 09:27 AM Post #18
Posts: 91 Group: Members Member #265 Joined: 4-Jul 2011	Quadrewple 23 Nov 2012, 01:18 AM TheStrangerInTheRye 17 Oct 2011, 02:31 PM Because government made it too easy for people to get loans for College, telling the banks that if the people getting the loans don't pay, the government will pay the banks. Since everyone can pay, Colleges have no incentive to decrease costs. Simple economics. This combined with the extreme pressure you get throughout school to go to college, combined with the lack of teaching critical thinking, equals RIDICULOUS college rates. There are plenty of people in my dad's generation who paid their way through a 4 year university by waiting tables on the side. I saw a 32GB flash drive for $18 at Staples about a year ago. The original Iomega hard drives in the 80s were 10MB and cost almost $900. That means today you get nearly 2000x the space for 45x less money, plus the added portability that comes with a flash drive. I'm ignoring so many other amazing features of this MASSIVE progression in the world of electronics and it's still mind-blowing just how fast and how significant the changes in measurable numbers have been over a relatively short period. In the 1950's you went into a college classroom, headed by a professor, who proceeded to lecture a large class of students using textbooks and maybe a wall projector. Nowadays you go into a college classroom, headed by a professor, who will proceed to lecture a large class of students using textbooks and probably a giant computer screen or projector. Adjusted for inflation, the average tuition at Harvard in 1947 was 8 times lower than it was in 2007, and it's not as if that trend has reversed. Has the quality of education increased by 8 times during that 60 year period? Obviously not since the model for the university classroom has barely changed. Even if the quality had increased by 8 times, that would mean ZERO progress has been made in the state-run university system in 60 fucking years. And this is WITH all the unfuckingbelievable benefits that the exponential improvement in computer technology has afforded us. Does everyone see how utterly absurd this is? Well said.
Posts: 91 Group: Members Member #265 Joined: 4-Jul 2011	"All our Knowledge begins with the senses, proceeds then to the understanding, and ends with reason. There is nothing higher than reason." -Immanuel Kant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEjkFH6CfkA


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