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| Topic Started: 2 Apr 2012, 07:30 PM (1,563 Views) | |
| whatsstrength | 2 Apr 2012, 07:30 PM Post #1 |
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If you were president now, what would you do in order to make this country a better place. State your stances and solutions for the following issues: -Abortion -Health Care -Economy -National Defense -Taxes -Worker's Rights -Immigration -Energy -Veteran Affairs I'm willing to admit I'm not completely familiar with the current political state of America, I only just recently got into politics, but I'll go ahead and answer a few to the best of my ability. -Abortion - Keep it legal. While I don't agree with it, I don't have the right to tell you what you can do with your body. -Immigration - Completely revamp border patrol; use more trained US troops, More outposts. Allow the current illegal population to apply for citizenship. -Veteran Affairs - Decrease military spending for weapons development and use the saved money to put in place programs for troops to get help with suicide prevention and PTSD. Ensure our troops are remembered and honored for their service by trying to have more public events with veterans and their families. -Energy - Increase funding for alternative energy technology and keep the public informed on breakthrough developments. Encourage more states to use wind and clean coal energy. |
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| BadHouses | 2 Apr 2012, 10:47 PM Post #2 |
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The "economy" is a pretty broad thing for a president to oversee. I'd probably fire all government employees and dismantle every (even remotely) federal board, committee, institute, think-tank, etc, including the buildings housing them. Probably wouldn't accomplish much and plunge the country I'm presiding over into a pretty horrible place, but screw it I'm El Presidente. Hang all politicians I could get my hands on publicly (exempting myself indefinitely by law of course). |
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| Blargazaur | 3 Apr 2012, 03:12 AM Post #3 |
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The fact that abortion is (and ever was) an issue is absurd and laughable, and you judge presidents by it? A candidate who is terrible at everything on that list, but is against abortion, gays, anything non-christian etc. has a really good shot at winning the elections. - That's sad, very sad, and bad for America and the rest of the world. |
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| Yar | 3 Apr 2012, 03:31 AM Post #4 |
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I'd finance the zombie virus studies. |
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| oscarstrok | 3 Apr 2012, 10:54 AM Post #5 |
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-Abortion: legalise it for all states and add it the the national health service as an optional service. -Health Care: nationalise it with 0.5% of tax going towards it for a start, then continuously increase the percentage over the course of 10 years -Economy: install fair regulations on big businesses which makes sure they don't exploit the masses, without chocking their profits. Allow the development of small businesses with these regulations. -National Defense: immediately bring back all troops from the middle east. Make the US military a more broad organisation by sending troops to help give out foreign aid for public charities ect. Also put less emphasise on high-tech weaponry and contractors while still making sure the manpower is still effective by focusing on skill -Taxes: bring down the military budget from 59% to 40%, giving us 19% to play with. Increase the public services to 2% (I think they're currently 0.5%, not sure though) -Worker's Rights: Create public unions, giving them electable leaders. Allow the unions to have more of a say. Also make unions more of a helper for CEO's/bosses rather than enemies. -Immigration: Try to improve the living conditions of local nations like cuba and mexico to ensure that the population of said nations think twice about immigrating. -Energy: research into storage of CO2 by making those artificial trees (I saw it in a documentary lol) which capture carbon dioxide. also shut down the outdated nuclear plants which danger millions of people on the east coast -Veteran Affairs: ummmm....treat them cool? I dunno, just make sure they don't end up homeless |
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| Dolerbom | 3 Apr 2012, 11:55 AM Post #6 |
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Abortion: Legalize it, there is nothing wrong with abortion. Things like insurance should help pay for it if they do not already. Healthcare- What Canada is doing. Economy- Watch over businesses, especially big businesses, to make sure they are not fucking people. By this i mean make laws telling them what they can't do, but do not control them to an extent they are losing a profit for nothing. I know some of you are probably thinking, " FREEDOM IS FREEDOM, MAN!" but freedom should only go to the extent to where you are not harming others freedom or just fucking them in general. National defense- Bring the troops back and if somehow by doing this the countries we bring them back from are a threat, increase defenses at home. Taxes- Cut a large portion of military spending. Worker's rights- Casual Fridays. Immigration- Like What said, allow the current illegal population to apply for citizenship, and don't make it impossible. With the troops back it would be easy to revamp border patrol, but while we are doing that we could do what Oscar said and help increase living conditions in the countries. Once the living conditions are better we could take down the borders. Energy- Increase funds to alternative energy and alternative energy research. This oil addiction is only going to hit us harder once all of the gas is gone unless we do this. |
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| PoodieCore | 3 Apr 2012, 11:55 AM Post #7 |
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Kill every single person who is vegan, religious or moronic in general. Then all attractive women are mandated to get impragnated by me. Then eventually all problems will be solved for the upcoming generations. Utopia here we come... |
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| Deleted User | 3 Apr 2012, 12:02 PM Post #8 |
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What about if you have an attractive daughter? Don't you have to impregnate her then, by law? |
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| PoodieCore | 3 Apr 2012, 12:07 PM Post #9 |
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Attractive is only that what I consider attractive. Since I'm not into incest, I don't have to bang my own daughters. There are always loopholes. |
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| Dolerbom | 3 Apr 2012, 12:20 PM Post #10 |
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Who will you screw if somehow there is an invention that will make you live 1000 years? All of the children are yours! |
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| alaskvarhehas | 3 Apr 2012, 03:10 PM Post #11 |
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I assume you are making the assumption that I would have a super-majority in congress. You do know that the president is actually a fairly weak branch of government. The president can't make laws, not even directly propose them to Congress. He can issue executive orders, but if they are contrary to federal or constitutional law then they are essentially unconstitutional. So, without a majority in Congress, the president is essentially powerless. Abortion: Legalize it. Quit being stupid, get your head out women's reproductive organs (unless she wants it there), and mind your own business. I might be uncomfortable with abortion after the second term, but I certainly don't think I have the right to stop it. Health-care: Everyone who is either a minor or makes under 50,000 a year automatically has government health insurance. It is illegal to deny coverage for any procedure that is not purely cosmetic in nature (and the government, with a panel of medical experts, shall define these terms). Unless, of course, that cosmetic procedure is for someone who has been injured in some sort of catastrophic accident or had some sort of birth defect. Nor shall it be legal to deny healthcare to anyone on the basis of pre-existing conditions. Economy: Get the fuck out of Afghanistan, pull our troops out of every country (except where needed for defense of our embassies), and redirect that money to education and scientific research. Create a new income tax system. Anyone making under 30,000 a year is tax exempt (and the first 30,000 that a person makes is automatically tax exempt). From that point on you only pay 1% of every 6400 dollars you make. At 250,000 the top income tax rate is 40%, and everyone above that only pays 40% of their income, and no more. take away ALL OTHER exemptions. Doing this, based on my calculations, would bring in way more revenue and create a better quality of life for the poor and middle class. The average person would pay something like 0-7% of their income in income taxes. Also, cut the fucking spending on useless shit. Stop enforcing drug laws, and cut national defense. National defense: Cut that. We don't need to spend so much on it. Taxes: Already told you. Worker's Rights: Have everything the way it is now+ whatever else is needed to make sure that workers are: A. Safe B. Paid a decent wage C. Free of intimidation and harassment D. and have decent benefits. Immigration: I don't particularly care. I think it's a bit stupid to try to keep people out, considering it's a useless endeavor. We'd have to be as vicious as North Korea to keep people from coming in illegally (electric fences, mine-fields, machine guns, snipers, patrols, horrible torture if you're caught followed by a painful execution or you and your entire family confined to a work camp for life. And yes, I know they do that to keep their citizens from leaving) Energy: Fund it big time. Veteran affairs: They earned their keep. Give them what they were promised (good health care, an excellent pension, etc. Plus, make sure they have a home. I met a vietnam vet a few months ago who had busted ribs, a missing leg, a broken hip, broken ribs, and broken arms, yet he had no choice but to limp about so that he could get to the vet hospital. Not to mention he was homeless, and on the streets someone beat the shit out of him and took what little money he had. That is just awful. Certainly one of the most dishonorable things our country does and tolerates. Oh, and I'd end all forms of censorship. I'd pass a law essentially removing all laws that censor content from the books. Well, all federal laws. I suppose I'd try to make one declaring all censorship laws inherently null and void. |
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| Dolerbom | 3 Apr 2012, 07:28 PM Post #12 |
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To the immigration thing; We can't let them in so easily. If we did this it could mess up both countries economies, etc. We should help improve their countries while still having a form of border patrol. Once the countries are better we can open our borders. |
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| Retardskull | 4 Apr 2012, 08:10 AM Post #13 |
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Okay. I'll fix your country! -Abortion Yep. -Health Care True universal healthcare. -Economy Raise taxes and cut spending. Protect people's money from being used for speculation by banks. A little voodoo magic. Stimulus. Stuff. -National Defense Nukes. -Taxes Streamline and simplify the tax code to iron out subjectivity and loopholes. Crazy totalitarian 99% income tax for billionaires. -Worker's Rights Are they bad now? Give them shares in the companies they work at. -Immigration Clean criminal record? Nobody is allowed in who would be on welfare. -Energy Continue funding hot fusion and cheaper and more efficient solar cells. -Veteran Affairs Uh... Give them money... ? Edited by Retardskull, 4 Apr 2012, 08:12 AM.
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| Nemesis | 5 Apr 2012, 11:47 AM Post #14 |
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I'm guessing the country is the USofA. In my first term I'll do anything to get re-elected for another term, because I'm human. My opinions won't be so right-wing, because I'm realistic. Abortion: legal anytime and free. Health Care: free controls, free abortions, free euthanasia. People that have a good excuse for not having insurance, should be insured (good excuse = bad luck. Example: "got fired, because of the economy and can't pay for one"; example of a bad excuse: "I don't want to pay for one"). The state should let private insurance companies compete with it. Costly treatments shouldn't be insured 100%. Pre-existing conditions should matter. You can also pay for insurance by donating blood and volunteering at a hospital or community centre. People that have public insurance should be forced to get a health control at least every year (if they don't want to, they lose their insurance). The people that are uninsured and have no excuse won't get stuff for free. Economy: less regulations. Taxes: less taxes + flat tax. Worker's Rights: let them have unions. Immigration: let the ones that are in the country be citizens, protect the borders more, let people get visas easier (especially tourists, ffs) Energy: "drill, baby, drill" (in a safe way, of course; it's better to have your own oil than important it from nasty regions) + nuclear energy + invest in new stuff. Edited by Nemesis, 5 Apr 2012, 11:51 AM.
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| PoodieCore | 5 Apr 2012, 12:06 PM Post #15 |
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Flat taxes suck. The more you earn, the more you benefit from public funded things. People that you employ or buy your products, went to public schools or to community colleges. You, your employees, your suppliers and your costumers use publicly funded infrastructure. And you are the guy that benefits the most from this. Taxes fund the cops to protect your wealthy ass and they also protect your employees and your potential clients. The more you earn, the more you benefit from the system provided by the state. Progressive taxation is fair and more importantly it works concerning fiscal policies. Besides morality is irrelavant in terms of "everyone should pay the same blabla". You see what happened to the states after Reagan lowered the taxes of the rich. The economy is today in the shitter and a middle class there is today poorer as it was in the eighties. Plus the country is bankcrupt. Why is that the case? Because most humans are egoistical scum that want to horde most of their when given the opportunity. You have to "steal" more from the rich and redristribute that for the sake of economic stability, because voluntarily nobody would give away more than 30% of his income. And yes rich people have to give away more than just 30%. That is even in their own interest as I explained in the beginning. Edited by PoodieCore, 5 Apr 2012, 12:07 PM.
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| Nemesis | 5 Apr 2012, 12:08 PM Post #16 |
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Flat tax => rich pay more, money-wise, but the same, percentage-wise. 30% of 20 000$ is more than 30% of 2 000$. Either morality is irrelevant or it's not. Don't use "fair" and the, say "morality is irrelevant", in the next fucking sentence. And the employees don't benefit from my wealth? The economy doesn't benefit from the fact that I consume a lot? The state doesn't benefit from getting a lot of money from me, because of VTA? The consumers don't benefit from my wealth, by using my products? Btw, no rich dude ever donates, right? (used "me" to mean "rich people", because it was easier) Reagan lowered taxes for the rich, ergo the US economy is presently "bankrupt", ergo flat tax sucks? Seriously? Edited by Nemesis, 5 Apr 2012, 12:21 PM.
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| PoodieCore | 5 Apr 2012, 12:53 PM Post #17 |
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No they don't. That's the whole point. The backbone of every economy is the middle class. The middle class employs, consumes and produces the most. The rich on the other hand are just a minority that may spend a lot. But do they spend or invest almost everything that they earn? No they don't. They may buy some fancy crap or they will invest a little here and there. But a rich person will never ever risk everything with an investment or spend all of his money on useless bullshit (at least when he is sane...). There are people that are so wealthy, it is practically impossible for them to spend everything, because there is a point where you really got everything in terms of material wealth. A middle class person on the other spends and invests almost everything that he earns. Hell the middle class makes sure that there are really rich people in the first place. When you consider this, you should consider what is in the interest of the state. The state wants as much tax revenues as possible now and in the future. Since the overall consumption of the wealthy is lower despite the fact that they have the most money and own most shit, you should tax them higher to lower the tax burden of the really productive segment of society which is the middle class. This trickle-down effect which was propergated by reagonomics, is entirely bullshit. Most people work for SMEs and not for super large corporations. Most people buy VWs and not Lamborghinis. Most people buy their food at the supermarket and do not spend it in luxury restaurants. The simple truth is that the economic well-being of the middle class is way more important for everyone (including the rich that make most of their money out of the middle class by the way) than the interests of the few wealthy people. Edited by PoodieCore, 5 Apr 2012, 01:06 PM.
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| Superpig | 5 Apr 2012, 04:27 PM Post #18 |
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More regulation, regulate the fuck of everything Don't drill baby drill. They don't do it safely and they do not care about that because in the short term its more costly to be safe about it. Edited by Superpig, 5 Apr 2012, 07:24 PM.
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| Nemesis | 6 Apr 2012, 10:08 AM Post #19 |
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Well, if you can't do it safety, they don't. What I meant to say was: "drill more in the US, if you can", but "drill, baby, drill" sounded better. Just because they are few, doesn't mean it shouldn't matter. You can't use "they are few" as an argument. You mentioned their small number many times in our conversations. Edited by Nemesis, 6 Apr 2012, 10:10 AM.
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| oscarstrok | 6 Apr 2012, 10:15 AM Post #20 |
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1. lower taxes on the rich 2. ????????????? 3. economy fixed |
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