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Anders Breivik to have private prison?
Topic Started: 7 Jun 2012, 07:22 AM (925 Views)
BrainBlow	8 Jun 2012, 08:43 AM Post #41
Why did I come back here again? Posts: 868 Group: Members Member #249 Joined: 3-Jul 2011	As the forum's token Norwegian and actual Utøya survivor, I guess I should chime in. First of all: Quote: they should just have done what they did to Vidkun Quisling (Leader of the Norwegian Nationalist party during WW2) One shot between the eyes He was executed by firing squad. That is five shots to the heart, not a bullet in the face. Quote: ut anyways have you heard how much we spent on the trial itself? millions a whole lot of millions! yeah sure Norway can handle it... screw saving the oil money for a time when it is truly needed We have almost a trillion NOK in the oil fund alone, I think we'll be fine. Quote: but it is a fact that this trial of the Nazi known as Anders Behring Breivik is costing us a whole lot of money Vidkun Quisling also had a trial. They didn't simply drag him out to the street and shoot him. We're already spending almost BILLIONS of NOK on "aid" to foreign countries that proceed to use the money to buy finer cars for the elite, or which simply gets lost in all the middle-men. Quote: What more is there to know? you can watch the entire god damn trial! they do not uncover anything we do not already know And if he was dead, we wouldn't know if there was more to know. What we do get to know is how STUPID the guy is. I don't think you realize the martyr role he would get if he was killed. I certainly don't want to give that to him. There's already people who consider him a hero of sorts. We do not need him becoming a martyr for them. Quote: Why is it that they will not let him get beaten up by these crowds of people that are in jail? Because it's barbaric and stupid. And what's to say he doesn't shank some other inmate? The death of said inmate would be on the hands of the people who think that prison brutality is hilarious. How far was I from getting done in by Breivik? The window of the room I was in is of the old kind that you can "easily" break with your fists, and he could then literally have leaned in and executed me in my sitting-duck spot. In that scenario, only pure luck would have saved my life. Luckily, he was satisfied with shooting two rounds through the window on the front door, not proceeding to reach in and open the door due to a precaution to avoid being zerg rushed and/or overpowered by someone in tight quarters. He did however plan to burn/smoke us all to death if he got the extra time, which he luckily didn't get. I wish for him to be locked up for the rest of his life, not put to death. He doesn't get the heroic martyr position granted by being killed by "opposition", we get to laugh loudly at the drivel he spouts(which did happen in court). We get to learn more about how he thinks, and what other people to look out for, rather than going on an idiotic witch hunt against the far-right members of society that won't get us anywhere good. We don't need people ranting about executions, beatings, flayings, etc etc Exactly what kind of society do you want? One where murdering someone is okay as long as you're passionate enough in your case that they deserve it? That's exactly the sort of mentality Breivik has, the one that has let him justify every murder, and his entire "to-kill" list. It's a mentality indistinguishable from people committing "honor killings". Nemesis +Breivik is quite interesting. I know this from people that read part of his journals. He sounded very smart and educated. He's a plagiarist, so now you know that. And the few "original" thoughts he did have are stupid as all fuck.
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LordMaffew	8 Jun 2012, 10:43 AM Post #42
Posts: 122 Group: Members Member #2,789 Joined: 30-May 2012	I seem to remember learning about how they killed several Nazi sympathizers without trial, i might be wrong but did they not shoot Terboven without trial?
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Nemesis	8 Jun 2012, 11:56 AM Post #43
Internet Zombie Posts: 7,829 Group: God Member #653 Joined: 28-Jul 2011	BrainBlow 8 Jun 2012, 08:43 AM Nemesis +Breivik is quite interesting. I know this from people that read part of his journals. He sounded very smart and educated. He's a plagiarist, so now you know that. And the few "original" thoughts he did have are stupid as all fuck. Yeah, you're right about the plagiarism, my bad. LordMaffew 8 Jun 2012, 10:43 AM I seem to remember learning about how they killed several Nazi sympathizers without trial, i might be wrong but did they not shoot Terboven without trial? I heard once, about 342 years ago, a dude was executed in a country from Western Europe after he killed some people WITHOUT TRIAL. Edited by Nemesis, 8 Jun 2012, 11:57 AM.



Yar	8 Jun 2012, 04:32 PM Post #44
Posts: 0 Group: Members Member #2,072 Joined: 15-Nov 2011	PoodieCore 7 Jun 2012, 02:09 PM It is not unusual that very dangerous or special individuals get their own prison. I don't have a problem with this. Yeah, listen to the German guy, give a Nazi his own private pri... WAIT A MINUTE!!!!



PoodieCore	8 Jun 2012, 04:43 PM Post #45
German douche Posts: 3,301 Group: Old Grumpy Nazi Member #705 Joined: 3-Aug 2011	Yar 8 Jun 2012, 04:32 PM PoodieCore 7 Jun 2012, 02:09 PM It is not unusual that very dangerous or special individuals get their own prison. I don't have a problem with this. Yeah, listen to the German guy, give a Nazi his own private pri... WAIT A MINUTE!!!!
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BrainBlow	8 Jun 2012, 06:01 PM Post #46
Why did I come back here again? Posts: 868 Group: Members Member #249 Joined: 3-Jul 2011	LordMaffew 8 Jun 2012, 10:43 AM I seem to remember learning about how they killed several Nazi sympathizers without trial, i might be wrong but did they not shoot Terboven without trial? It's as easy as googling "Terboven", dude. He blew himself up in a bunker with 50 kilos of dynamite. It is irrelevant, regardless. Aspiring to misdeeds of the past is completely and utterly stupid.
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LordMaffew	8 Jun 2012, 06:41 PM Post #47
Posts: 122 Group: Members Member #2,789 Joined: 30-May 2012	I think this discussion of Breivik should be put to rest until they judge him.
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Nemesis	8 Jun 2012, 07:34 PM Post #48
Internet Zombie Posts: 7,829 Group: God Member #653 Joined: 28-Jul 2011	LordMaffew 8 Jun 2012, 06:41 PM I think this discussion of Breivik should be put to rest until they judge him. Why start this topic if you think that?



Yar	9 Jun 2012, 02:17 AM Post #49
Posts: 0 Group: Members Member #2,072 Joined: 15-Nov 2011	PoodieCore 8 Jun 2012, 04:43 PM Yar 8 Jun 2012, 04:32 PM PoodieCore 7 Jun 2012, 02:09 PM It is not unusual that very dangerous or special individuals get their own prison. I don't have a problem with this. Yeah, listen to the German guy, give a Nazi his own private pri... WAIT A MINUTE!!!! Spoiler: click to toggle Young Brezhnev? Spoiler: click to toggle



BrainBlow	9 Jun 2012, 05:07 AM Post #50
Why did I come back here again? Posts: 868 Group: Members Member #249 Joined: 3-Jul 2011	Nemesis 8 Jun 2012, 07:34 PM LordMaffew 8 Jun 2012, 06:41 PM I think this discussion of Breivik should be put to rest until they judge him. Why start this topic if you think that? So that then he can get to whine about the sentence.
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LordMaffew	9 Jun 2012, 07:30 AM Post #51
Posts: 122 Group: Members Member #2,789 Joined: 30-May 2012	I will not whine about the sentence, i am actually excited to see if they call him insane and give him free treatment or if they say that he knew what he was doing and lock him up for the rest of his life without the free drugs...
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Nemesis	9 Jun 2012, 07:51 AM Post #52
Internet Zombie Posts: 7,829 Group: God Member #653 Joined: 28-Jul 2011	LordMaffew 9 Jun 2012, 07:30 AM I will not whine about the sentence, i am actually excited to see if they call him insane and give him free treatment or if they say that he knew what he was doing and lock him up for the rest of his life without the free drugs... It's not: a) if they say he is sick, he will get free drugs and a cool treatment b) if they don't, he will stay in prison It's: a) if they say he is sick, he is most likely sick, and he will get treatment; you can't bring the dead back to life, you can only do justice and treating the sick is justice b) if they say he isn't, he probably isn't, an he will get the sentence he deserves (according to the Norwegian justice system, which I trust and which is quite good, imho) Regarding the price: it's not what you pay in order to make a killer's life happy, it's what you pay in order to have a safe society (seriously, look at Norway's crime rates and the effectiveness of it's prisons, when it comes to rehabilitation). This includes the safety of the other inmates (if he goes to prison) and the staff (the extra security measures). And: apart from giving the sentence, the purpose of the trial is also to find out the truth (as much as possible). People want to know why and how. The fact that you now know he did everything alone was revealed by the trial (you can't just say "well, he said he did it all alone, and he just performed a terrorist attack, so we must trust him).



LordMaffew	9 Jun 2012, 03:06 PM Post #53
Posts: 122 Group: Members Member #2,789 Joined: 30-May 2012	No you see he said they where several other people, but they say its all in his head...
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Nemesis	9 Jun 2012, 03:11 PM Post #54
Internet Zombie Posts: 7,829 Group: God Member #653 Joined: 28-Jul 2011	LordMaffew 9 Jun 2012, 03:06 PM No you see he said they where several other people, but they say its all in his head... That's even better for my position. The trial proved he lied.



LordMaffew	9 Jun 2012, 05:02 PM Post #55
Posts: 122 Group: Members Member #2,789 Joined: 30-May 2012	No it was proven before the trial as they took him into psychiatry...
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Nemesis	9 Jun 2012, 05:03 PM Post #56
Internet Zombie Posts: 7,829 Group: God Member #653 Joined: 28-Jul 2011	LordMaffew 9 Jun 2012, 05:02 PM No it was proven before the trial as they took him into psychiatry... Psychiatrists proved, beyond reasonable doubt, that no one helped him?



LordMaffew	9 Jun 2012, 06:15 PM Post #57
Posts: 122 Group: Members Member #2,789 Joined: 30-May 2012	They proved that most of what he says is in his imagination...
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Nemesis	9 Jun 2012, 06:19 PM Post #58
Internet Zombie Posts: 7,829 Group: God Member #653 Joined: 28-Jul 2011	LordMaffew 9 Jun 2012, 06:15 PM They proved that most of what he says is in his imagination... You can't prove that everything he said was false, using psychologists, you need a criminal investigation.



Principessa	10 Jun 2012, 07:53 AM Post #59
Posts: 64 Group: Members Member #2,809 Joined: 5-Jun 2012	OP, am I right in thinking you would suggest the death penalty without a criminal trial in this case? Is this essentially the bare bones of what you're getting at? If not, what do you think should happen in such a situation?



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