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Get lazy as we advance?
Topic Started: 8 Jul 2012, 06:24 PM (705 Views)
Leon8455
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Do you think that we will get lazier as our technology advances? Think of Wall.E, all they did was surf the internet and sit around on a floating chair all day eating junk food. It seems to me that our future might be similar to that, little ridiculous to say I know but it seems far to realistic of a future in my mind.

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(also sorry if a thread similar to this has already been posted before, never come on here anymore)
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Nemesis
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If we progress a lot from a technological point of view, then we (the ones that are lucky and live in the developed world) will do stuff in an easier way and get more free time, but I don't think you can say that we'll get lazier.

Surfing the internet in your free time isn't being lazy. Surfing the internet when you have work to do is being lazy. "Lazy" is mostly defined as "unwilling to work".

The amount of time and effort that it takes in order to achieve something is irrelevant when talking about laziness. The unwillingness to work is the relevant thing.

Also, not working at work is different from not working for some project you have as a hobby. You are lazy in both scenarios, but you're lazier when doing the first action, because of the importance/necessity of it.
Edited by Nemesis, 8 Jul 2012, 06:45 PM.
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Taelôk
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More free time the better. Some people may not utilize their free time in worthwild ways, which can be a sign of a lazy personality.

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Yes, cushier lifestyles are turning the population more docile and complacent.
Someone who's hungry and/or angry is always willing to work harder and sacrifice more for their goals... But if your ass is taken care of, and if there's "The Idol" on the TV, why rock the boat over someone else being assassinated, tortured or imprisoned by your goverment? Take another bite of those delicious chicken wings instead.
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why rock the boat over someone else being assassinated, tortured or imprisoned by your goverment? Take another bite of those delicious chicken wings instead.


What happend to being responsible for only one's own life? Now everyone needs to go on big anti-corruption crusades?

Neverthless, I agree that so much time is wasted on nonsense.
Edited by Taelôk, 8 Jul 2012, 11:53 PM.
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This thing called society, does tend to affect your life, you know. I don't mean by making you feel bad.
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Taelôk
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This thing called society, does tend to affect your life, you know


Only abstractly.
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...also in the form of an angry mob with pitchforks coming your way.
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Taelôk
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9 Jul 2012, 01:44 AM
...also in the form of an angry mob with pitchforks coming your way.
Which is somehow relevant to abstract gov't courrption. Which at least as far as Australia goes, does not involve your said mentioned things. God knows where you live, it may be a bigger issue.

please be somewhat coherent.
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Leon8455
8 Jul 2012, 06:24 PM
all they did was surf the internet and sit around on a floating chair all day eating junk food.
Well, That's basically all I do right now.

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9 Jul 2012, 09:32 AM
Leon8455
8 Jul 2012, 06:24 PM
all they did was surf the internet and sit around on a floating chair all day eating junk food.
Well, That's basically all I do right now.
I'm quite sure you're actually too lazy to even get out of your bed and sit on a chair and you remain in the bed. If this is true, I have only one word for you: respect.
Edited by Nemesis, 9 Jul 2012, 12:11 PM.
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It won't change the 'lazy:productive' ratio, it will change the means by which we work and and efficiancy by which we do it. There are plenty of retailers for example who 'surf the internet all day' and own no bricks and mortar store. It's not like they're not doing anything it's just changing they way it's done.
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Maybe physically lazier, but then again, it seems that healthy lifestyles are becoming more and more mainstream partially due to the advancement in our understanding of diet and exercise. One great thing about the information age is you can outsource the less frequently needed knowledge to the Internet. If you need to remember something at a later date, you can send yourself a message on Facebook or an email which I do quite often.

We face considerably less challenges on a day to day basis than people did 100 years ago. While this means our life is more comfortable, it also means that it's easier to stay in the comfort zone and not push yourself to make progress.
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So it goes.

Taelôk
9 Jul 2012, 12:17 AM
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This thing called society, does tend to affect your life, you know


Only abstractly.
Bullshit.
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Taelôk
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Bullshit.


Not an argument. If you have something to actually add, then by all means.

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Eugene Debs Hartke
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So it goes.

Taelôk
17 Dec 2012, 02:49 AM
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Bullshit.


Not an argument. If you have something to actually add, then by all means.

True. The reason I was so quick to spout expletives is because I felt it wasn't a point worthy of refuting; still, that's a bit of a cop-out, ain't it?

Since I'm immersed in a society, expectations are levied upon me that wouldn't otherwise be. Since I'm at least somewhat participatory in my own society, I have a basic knowledge of what those are, and what they entail. Because I'm unable to remove myself from the constraints of my society (though I admit to frequently fantasize about that prospect), I may well have alternatives to complying with those standards and expectations, but I'll be ever more shunned for attempting them.

You almost seem to forget that people use "society" interchangeably with "large, surrounding and facilitating collective of humans." In truth, there are far more examples of this then just societies (think family, race, group associated with belief system), but only your society, empowered by your government, has the legalized, moralized and inescapable punishments for breaking expectations. (Eg: Other members of a political party can beat the shit out of you for being untrue to the stated positions of the party, but that punishment isn't normalized by society as a whole.)

Perhaps I'm deluding myself here, but that doesn't seem the least bit abstract to me. Group dynamics aren't abstract; to us, as an undeniably social species, they're rather intrinsic.
Edited by Eugene Debs Hartke, 22 Dec 2012, 08:29 AM.
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As much as I like the luxuries such as my computer, tv, car, phone, etc. I find the 'survival' lifestyle really appeals to me. There is something about hunter/gathering to live that seems very fulfilling. I am very grateful for the survival skills I already have, but I would love to expand them. Yes we are very lazy, but we are starting to get better.
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but we are starting to get better.
In what ways?
Edited by Superpig, 23 Dec 2012, 01:00 AM.
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Nemesis
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22 Dec 2012, 07:56 PM
Yes we are very lazy, but we are starting to get better.
Compared to what? (regarding both statements: "we are very lazy", "we are starting to get better")
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The majority of us live sedentary lifestyles. We mostly eat prepackaged, ready to cook food. Very seldom do we make food from scratch. Any merchandise we need is available and can be dropped off at our doorstep. Most things we own have been made in a factory.

Exercise and general 'well being' is starting to get very mainstream, that's why I think we are starting to get better.
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