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| Topic Started: 15 Jul 2012, 03:16 PM (1,450 Views) | |
| LordMaffew | 15 Jul 2012, 03:16 PM Post #1 |
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So over the last couple of weeks there has been a whole lot of reports of what we should do with the gypsies living on the streets and stuff like that. So first everyone where like "What are they even doing here, We should send them home" and it is disappointing that most people who live in can not possibly anyone of another culture living here. But out of nowhere the people i least expected to stand up for these gypsies took them in, and the people who did this where priests, the priests decided it was okay to have the gypsies live outside of churches. But still the rest of society wanted them away from their oh so perfect white lives. It was then some guy was like "Yeah i am a decent human being and i got this place where they ca stay" and they where moved from the churches to this sandy little place right outside of the suburbs, Now the Suburban house assholes where pissed and sent death treats to the man who had given the area to the gypsies. I have been following this case and i for one feel disgusted that people can just chase the gypsies away and claim that they are not worthy of living in this country, i think the gypsies should just get to live wherever they feel like. What do you guys feel about this? should they be deported? should they live wherever they want or just in specified areas? |
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| JeffroTheMan | 15 Jul 2012, 03:22 PM Post #2 |
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FUCK THE GYPSIES! KILL THEM ALL! |
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| PoodieCore | 15 Jul 2012, 03:49 PM Post #3 |
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Without wanting to sound racist, gypsies are often criminals, hobos and social welfare parasites. I can only speak of Germany, but they are statisically a problematic group when it comes to these issues. The reasons are that they are rejected by mainstream society, people act racist towards them and they are discriminated. But they are also often not really willing to intergrate into society. Well that's just the reality in many European countries. |
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| Chocoberry | 15 Jul 2012, 03:51 PM Post #4 |
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Gypsies are a huge menace to society, at least round these parts. Whenever they move into town they cause violence, disturb the peace, my friend got into a road accident because a group of teenage gypsy thugs threw beer cans at his windshield. Pikey scumbags. I would like to deport them but that's not a PC way of thinking. I think they should remain on certain specified lands only. This is the 21st century. Fuck their 'traditions' - either they agree to keep the peace and adhere to land laws or they can fuck off. I also forgot to mention that they basically only move when their sites become landfills and they expect us to clean up their heaping shit pile of mess. Edited by Chocoberry, 15 Jul 2012, 03:53 PM.
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| Nemesis | 15 Jul 2012, 03:59 PM Post #5 |
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Don't look at the number of Gypsies that are in Norway now and think: "OK, we have 10 000 homeless, jobless, educationless Gypsies, we can take care of them". It ain't like that, brah. If Gypsies (the poor, uneducated ones = the ones I'm referring to from now one, since I don't want to repeat "poor, uneducated" every time; a lot of Gypsies are adjusted in their motherland: they have an education, a legal job, a legal place to live) hear Norway treats them well, they'll fucking invade the shit out of it. It's what they do: in the countries in which they are born or in other countries; they don't mind moving a lot, in fact, most of them quite like it. It sucks to have a country that is viewed as a heaven for immigrants that want to be social parasites. Gypsies are good for stuff like this: http://www.gandul.info/international/orasul-din-germania-care-i-primeste-cu-bratele-deschise-pe-romii-nostri-8677206 (Google translate-it). A country is not forced to take care of the Gypsies that stay and work there illegally, but, if a country wants to help them, the only way to do it is by making them work hard for an awesome life, not by offering them everything, without asking for anything. So, house them, but force them to get an education, if they already have one (or if they are old, but know a good skill) or after they finish getting one, make them pay rent. Let them become citizens like any other immigrants, don't make special laws for them (because they'll invade). An invasion of Gypsies that want to be social parasites ain't cool, but neither is one from Gypsies that want to work (if the work force gets bigger, but the number of jobs remain the same, you'll obviously get high unemployment). A good thing (if Norway needs it) would be getting some hard-working motherfuckers (especially since not all Norwegians love doing inferior jobs; the Gypsies won't mind doing that). The Europeans countries from which the Gypsies emigrate (mostly Romania and Bulgaria, because they have a lot of Gypsies and because they are EU citizens, so they can travel easier) do offer opportunities for them. For example, Romania lets them get a free education, including special places in colleges (like, 150 places, 5 of which are for Gypsies, if they don't enter, non-Gypsies will get the places; this way, if 149 places are occupied and a Gypsy has a 6.7 score and a non-Gypsy has a 8.2 score -the lowest score out of the 144 places the non-Gypsies got-, the Gypsy gets the place, if no more than 4 Gypsies with a score above 6.7 already got places) and, if they can prove they are poor (it's easy) they'll get money from the state some stuff (some even got computers); they don't get universal healthcare if they are adults and never worked, but they get treated if they have an emergency (this is abused, and they always go to the emergency room and get treated, so they basically get free healthcare, without paying taxes). The reasons why they don't stay here are: lower quality of life than in Western and Northern Europe, more racism here than there and they get more money from begging and stealing (the ones that steal, ofc, not every Gypsy steals. Edited by Nemesis, 15 Jul 2012, 05:48 PM.
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| LordMaffew | 15 Jul 2012, 04:01 PM Post #6 |
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http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10051502 Look at where they fucking live! and people still want them out? And yeah most immigrants in this country are social parasites, and i do support giving them education and jobs... But look at it this way no matter how much an immigrant does for his country people will still think of him as an illegal monster who probably is here to suck social welfare's Cock Edited by LordMaffew, 15 Jul 2012, 04:06 PM.
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| PoodieCore | 15 Jul 2012, 04:01 PM Post #7 |
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Everyone who has seen the movie Thinner, should know that you shouldn't fuck with gypsies... The tribal elder will fucking curse you or some shit. |
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| Nemesis | 15 Jul 2012, 04:04 PM Post #8 |
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France and Germany (mainly Berlin) pay them to leave. They don't force them to leave. It's retarded, because they just take the money, leave and then come back. Most gypsies agreed to live right before Christmas and returned afterwards. It was basically a paid holiday for them. I don't have a problem with deporting them. It's not like they are deported to Somalia. Gypsies aren't starving to death in Romania and Bulgaria, they just don't get the same standard of living here. The bulibaşa (clan leader) never curses. The Gypsy witches that use black magic curse. But, it's OK, you can get some Gypsy witches that use white magic to reverse the curse. Edited by Nemesis, 15 Jul 2012, 04:06 PM.
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| PoodieCore | 15 Jul 2012, 04:07 PM Post #9 |
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@Nemesis In Germany and France, there are also a lot of gypsies who were born here. |
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| Nemesis | 15 Jul 2012, 04:09 PM Post #10 |
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Give them toilets, showers and shelters. I'm sure that won't cause Gypsies to immigrate to Norway more. Aren't they adjusted? Edited by Nemesis, 15 Jul 2012, 04:10 PM.
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| PoodieCore | 15 Jul 2012, 04:15 PM Post #11 |
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Well the shittiest ones who belong to the hobo mafia or send their kids to steal, are coming from Romania. But in my original hometown in the Northwest, there are also gypsies who come every summer with trailers. They cause a little trouble. Stealing and begging. But mainly they illegally sell cheap shit. I guess a lot of it, are stolen goods. Edited by PoodieCore, 15 Jul 2012, 04:15 PM.
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| Nemesis | 15 Jul 2012, 04:18 PM Post #12 |
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I'm sure that there is a large percent of Gypsies living in the UK that aren't like that (probably less than 50%, but still important enough). If you see an Indian-looking person having a job, you might assume he is Indian or Pakistani, but he might be a immigrant Gypsy working and staying there legally. The look the same and dress the same ('cept for the religious outfits, ofc, but they have the same retarded sense of fashion). Also, some Gypsies look white. The Gypsies that immigrate are worse than the Gypsies that remain in their motherlands. I was talking about the ones that are born in France and Germany. Regarding the cheap shit: they probably buy a lot of it from their countries and sell in in Germany and make a profit. Why would they steal cheap shit, when they can steal expensive shit? Edited by Nemesis, 15 Jul 2012, 04:21 PM.
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| PoodieCore | 15 Jul 2012, 04:23 PM Post #13 |
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The ones with the trailers come to my hometown, since my father was a child. They come every year around the same time. Pretty they are domestic Romas or Sintis (I'm a PC faggpt...). |
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| Nemesis | 15 Jul 2012, 04:27 PM Post #14 |
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Anyway, since we are sharing personal experiences with Gypsies: most of the ones I met are OK. The poor ones suck more than the poor non-Gypsies, because they get discriminated more and they have less opportunities. Everyone here (including the Gypsies) fears Gypsies more than they fear non-Gypsies, because the percent of violent Gypsies is larger than the percent of violent non-Gypsies. Most of the members of my family, including me, have been robbed by Gypsies at least once and we aren't living in rough neighbourhoods. Most of the objects are probably not stolen. They do this shit a lot here. What are the quality of the products? If they are Nike, Addidas, etc., they probably come from factories from Turkey. The Gypsies buy the imperfect (small mistakes in the making of them) products that are normally recycled. The sell it at ~half the price and it's hard to notice the difference. They always show you what the imperfection is, if you ask. Andrea Pirlo is a Sinti. We don't make the Roma-Sinti distinction here and "gypsy" doesn't have the same negative value attached to it as "nigger" here. It's OK to use it on TV.
Sure you are, since you used "gypsies" 10 times here. Edited by Nemesis, 15 Jul 2012, 04:35 PM.
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| Yar | 15 Jul 2012, 04:43 PM Post #15 |
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I also don't want to sound racist, so I'll imply the "not a real Scot" logical fallacy here: there is a race or nation, whatever anthropology term is right, called Romani. And there's a social group of Romani people who dress like carnies, sell drugs and scam people on the streets - these are Gypsies. I mean, I don't want to be prejudiced against them, but WHY DO THEY KEEP DOING SO MUCH SHIT TO EVERYBODY?! I mean, a week ago I arrive in another town, and who do I meet right off the bus? A bunch of gypsies surround me trying to feed me some bullshit about lending them money or something. BUT their chicks are... well, there's no words, I mean there was this chick, one look at her hips, her navel - boom! the boner of gore! |
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| Chocoberry | 15 Jul 2012, 04:46 PM Post #16 |
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I am unaware as to the amount of Gypsies that immigrate here. For the most part our (UK) Gypsies are Irish Catholic. They suck. There is a famous boxer right now, Tyson Fury, who comes from a lineage of Irish Catholic Gypsies. Anyway, my point still stands. I have no sympathy for people who choose to live outwith society, fucking up our shit, for some stupid fucking travelling tradition that has no place in our modern era. |
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| PoodieCore | 15 Jul 2012, 04:47 PM Post #17 |
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Here you cannot say that on TV... |
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| Nemesis | 15 Jul 2012, 04:48 PM Post #18 |
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Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Sinisa Mihajlovic are Roma. (regarding how some Gypsies don't look like Gypsies) |
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| Triplock | 15 Jul 2012, 04:48 PM Post #19 |
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They've found a great niche in society. Don't expect for the "gypsy problem" to g away... ever. As long as parasitism never goes beyond being a slight nuissance, it will never be repressed, and there'll be no cause for anyone to reform, rehabilitate, and keep 'em fingers off shiny shit. Happy hunting. |
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| Nemesis | 15 Jul 2012, 04:49 PM Post #20 |
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How very socialist of you. |
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